I have searched for restricted lists from both equally when Gail commented and now, and will’t find any with Elizabeth’s name. Would it not be wrong to recommend that “Gail” is basically just Jack Vandergrumper spouting additional anti-silver nonsense? I've posted our initially litter of Silver Labs on many FB https://finngvgpy.madmouseblog.com/19590595/the-basic-principles-of-tortoises-for-sale